any out there?

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Explain in a little more detail please. Are you referring to other dimensions, or other planets with intelligent life, or both, or maybe neither?
i'm specifically looking for people who KNOW what it means
it's coming, though.

i feel that i have an intuitive knowing.
This question of yours reminded me of those books. There are 3 of them...K, can't find them anywhere. But one is called Handbook for a New Paradigm, Embracing the Rainbow, and Becoming.

I wonder why?.................

Lightbulb just went off on where to find them. So I will start a new thread. Mikal...didn't mean to hijack your thread, sry!

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in my humble opinion
i bet a LOT of the "official" dreamspell definitions are WRONG, like crucially wrong. i am actually quite sure of this. anyway...
According to the dreamspell... I am a
Yellow Rythmic Warrior
Blue Western Castle of Burning
Earth family- Cardinal Clan- Sky

I organize in order to question
Balancing fearlessness
I seal the output of intelligence
With the rythmic tone of equality
I am guided by my own power doubled.

She smiles, for me White World-Bridger represents my Challenge and Gift. " With maturity and awareness this challenge will turn into a Focus. This is what you desire to learn in this lifetime.
If you find yourself disturbed by or denying any painful processes, be willing to look at how you might embrace death. Death is a natural part of transformation. Sometimes we are brought to experience symbolic deaths such as loss, divorce, illness, or separation from others. Embrace these seemingly dark or difficult experiences; they will release you from attachments and expectations, clearing you to more fully receive the light. If you find yourself in a dark corner of depression or despair, White World-Bridger offers you a lifeline, a way out. Allow your burdens to be lifted into the sweet release and forgiveness of White World-Bridger. Don't give up. There is always someone somewhere who can help you. Reach out to a friend, a loved one, a therapist. Know that you are comforted and supported in love's unconditional embrace.
Another shadow of White World-Bridger is the desire to be in control, which can move into fear of death. This fear may be expressed as an imbalance in your physical, mental or emotional well-being, or as an exaggerated focus on the body, health, money or addictive activities. Look at the consequences and possibilities that would be presented by your symbolic death. The transformation offered in White World-Bridger is found in surrender, release and forgiveness. Through awareness and clear intention, old patterns can magically shift, offering you a loving hand that shows a new way."

If you want check out my blog @, there I call myself metaphoric metamorphosis, though very few get it at all. I recently posted a piece entitled TRANSCENDENCE IN MAYAN MYTHOLOGY, Loving you, RJI
i will risk being misunderstood: i am sure that in MOST cases the interpretations of the Maya astronomical symbology is either distorted -- or missing something major -- or both. I take them in, and I take them with a grain or more of salt...

being a descendant of peoples who often developed cultures without any written languages at all -- but that simply developed ORAL traditions -- i am used to the typicality of Western academic types posessing a sort of unconscious blind arrogance about the indigeonous or vanished or near-vanished like the Maya cultures that they examine.

that bit of utter cynicism out of the way --i DO read them and think about what they could mean. 0ften they resonate.

i'm just not buying ANY argument that says 'you are all doomed and there's nothing you can do - it's out of your hands.' i feel personally that Source ALLOWS such statements and ideas to persist as a challenge to the evolvers (maybe us)...

i'll check out that page, too. interesting the relationship suggested between the warrior and the world-bridger...

i have wondered if the world-bridger could possibly represent the same energies as the psychopomp in the Eleusis mysteries...

the Greeks had a divinity named Maya, as you will recall - as did the Egyptians. there's coincidence -- a synchronicity that i joyfully refuse to ignore --as in -- i think i Noticed Something about the fact that the word "Maya" or "Maia" appears all over the ancient world -- but with different interpretations as to meaning!

special bonus to any who have seen the close resemblance of other words:

and of course
and "Maori"

seeing the connectedness could lead one to realise that there is a sort of "illusion" that binds everything together -- or is it MORE than Illusion -- perhaps it has been falsely judged against as illusion -- when what it was was more deeply the foundation, the underlying fabric of all that is?

cultures that had false understandings of the underpinnings of realities
might even self-destruct on a fucking TIMER -- as it is said that Earth/Urantia cultures have for many Great Ages...


It is my understanding that Maya means illusion and the end/beginning date of the Mayan calendar is the end of an illusion, could be any illusion or all illusion, but I believe it is the illusion of time in the sense of the Gregorian Calendar and the illusions created by the ruling elites of the world usually through lies in the mass media.

I'm going through my books now to find an answer to this question. Will have a reply soon.

The Maya believe that on Dec. 21, 2012 we will be aligning with the center of the galaxy which to them is the womb of all creation, or where all life originates from. I will study the Blowgunner Pot and stela further, but I believe the answer to this question to be yes at this time.


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