might just take you up on your invite one of these days... both because there is a huge amount of pressure to bring a July Gathering back to Oregon and because I have numerous friends scattered around the state who keep asking me to come on out and because I loved my time in Eugene working at Whitebird and etc... I do remember the large NY Regional, much of that is due to the wonderful Northern Lights sky I witnessed there. I have treated so many spider bites that I do not recall the specific incident to which you refer but I gather I was able to help you through yours. I do remember that in Idaho or was it Nevada when we had 4 or 5 such bites come into CALM all from the same area of the gathering that I went there, stripped naked, layed down to be bitten and indeed was successful. so I could then try a new way to treat spider and snake bites, which worked quite well... using 12 volt electricity at a specific amperage to cause the human body to reject the poison and send it all gushing back through the original wound. did I use that method to treat yours? (with a specific type of stun gun no longer available on the open market, thanks I presume to the fda) or did I use herbs to draw and Homeopathy internally (which is also successful more often than not)???